24-06-06

WATER CHARGING DEVICE


As told by Joe on a visit to an Adelaide (Australian) group in 1998.

This consists of seven, 290mm diameter, 316 stainless steel dairy cream separator cones,

available from  Bruce Keyes William Rd. Goosbury  Hill W.A. (09-257-1481).

These sit inside a beer keg which has had the top removed. The top must be cut off by hand, no heat involved. Also run a neodybnium magnet over the keg, particularly on the joins and pick one with the least amount of magnetic attraction. The keg is stood on a wooden base to insulate it from the floor - don't stand it directly on concrete.

As shown in the diagram, the cones are threaded onto a length of 50mm black corrugated plastic  (as used in agricultural drains) The cones are held apart by rubber hose, cut into 20mm lengths. Joe uses the hose which is used in traffic counters across roads. He stated that he only uses the "thick" type, not the thin one.

As this is in NSW, we are not sure that we have the correct stuff here. The rubbers (three rubbers per row) are placed at even spacing so that they line up with each other. We used 6mm poly pipe at each end to hold the whole assembly together. The assembled unit is strung with a short length of 316 stainless strapping from a 25mm piece of 316 stainless pipe (we used the center pipe from the keg), which is insulated from the keg by two pieces of wood.

The electrical connections are very critical in that they mast be connected exactly as shown in the diagram. Alternative ways of connecting them will work according to conventional electrical theory, but it will not work the way this unit is designed. Where the supply connections are under the water, insulate them with clear plastic tube. Use 316 stainless pop rivets as shown (hammer the back of them flat) and bend the 316 stainless strapping exactly as shown in the drawing. Joe said that the position of the positive and negative in relation to each other is not critical, however the positive must be looped over the edge of the keg and the supply clipped over this loop. We have been using a 54-volt power supply, capable of delivering 20 Amps.

Joe seems to use anything from 12 volts up to 54 volts. Plain water is used, no additives at all, and depending on what is in the water to begin with, the current seems to be anywhere from 0.5 amps for de-ionized water up to 12 amps for some tank water that I have used.

Effects that indicate that the water is being charged are:

·     Keg becomes magnetic

·     Water produces bubbles that stick together (high surface tension) and are implosive when lit, rather than the yellow flamed hydrogen.

·     Clump of bubbles "grow" out towards the edge of the keg in an anti-clockwise direction.

·     Water rotates in an anti-clockwise direction.

·     Bubbles coat the cones and stay after the unit is switched off

·     Bubbles continue to slowly come off after unit is switched off

·     Loads of brown scum comes to the surface of the water. Scoop this off into a glass jar and the next day it settles to the bottom of the jar. If water is placed in a bucket next to a keg of charged water, a similar brown scum will settle out straight to the bottom of the bucket

If the unit does not produce the correct bubbles (implosive, very loud, no flame) but instead produces straight hydrogen (explosive, duller bang, yellow flame), try switching the unit off and back on or reversing either one or both of the supply clip leads (physically turning them around, but on the same connection) Also try reversing the polarity of the supply for a short time, but always return it to the correct way around, otherwise you may end up with an electroplater. Any of these methods, although very unorthodox, can cause the unit to begin producing the correct gas.

Finally, it is important to note that Joe claims that if any variation on this design is used, the unit will not work. Do not rely on conventional theory to make "improvements" as this is not normal stuff! If the water begins to heat up, the unit is not working properly. We have not got the unit to produce fully "charged water" although we have experienced some of the above effects. Doubtful parts of our unit is the type of rubber insulators and the center tube set-up.

********************************

Additional Barry Hilton notes. (1/1/98)

Barry considers that this device works on Zero Point Energy and that Joe's device is tapping the basic energy fields, which flow at 90 deg. to the earth.

Tubes.

Reflex band must be less than 4 - 5 mm in width

Tube must not be magnetic as measured with a ceramic magnet.

Grades of stainless he thinks Joe has used are 316, 3I6L, 1808 or any other which is "food processing equipment grade".

Water Treatment:

 

The brown gunge, which comes off the cones, is Ferric Oxide, according to Barry, the iron is off the cones and the oxygen from the electrolysis of the water. Once the gas is implosive, the water is charged. This MUST occur within the first few minutes (up to 10 mins?) or it will not be any good. Throw the water out and repeat with fresh water until the above conditions are met. Barry has found that the more this is done, the quicker the correct gas will occur for any given cell

Cones:

Gaps closer than 15mm will cause electroplating.

If the voltage is kept to 12 volts, no nickel will occur in the water.

Adjust the height of the cones off the bottom of the keg to get the right gas.

 The more the cell is used, i.e. add water, charge up, throw out the water, etc the quicker the gas comes off Do this 20 - 30 times and the gas will come off straight away, even on 12 volts.

 Barry's theory is that the cones become impregnated with hydrogen.

**********************************

Additional Ian Hacon notes. 11/1/98

Blue fire extinguisher (Chubb) is the one to use, as these are not magnetic. Ian is using 2, 3, 4, 5 inch tubes inside. The 2 inch tube has a plate pressed inside it with a threaded hole in the middle so that a bolt can be fitted for the -ve connection. The tubes are to be highly polished using Butinol and Phosphoric acid to etch them.

*****************************

 

GAS GENERATOR FOR VEHICLES

The unit consists of four concentric 316 stainless steel tubes set up as shown in the drawing. When selecting the tubing, use a neodybnium magnet to test the welded seam in the tube for any attraction to the magnet. If there is any attraction, do not use that particular tube. The center tube is 25mm in diameter and has a 316 stainless steel bolt rammed into the end of it. This tube must be slightly shorter than the next two so that it cannot directly "see" the outside tube. The center tube fits into a Teflon Insulator, which then fits into the 316 stainless end plate. (Note: The Teflon insulator is totally covered with Sikaflex) The outside 100mm diameter tube also becomes the outside of the unit. This tube is longer and fits into a groove machined into each end plate. The other two intermediate tubes, 50mm and 75mm diameters are held in position by rubber insulating pieces, similar to the ones that hold the cones apart in the water-charging device. This time however, they must be in line with each other, spread at 120 degrees around the tubes. The whole assembly is held together by four threaded aluminium rods with 316 stainless nuts on each end. The gas exits the unit via the 12mm aluminium tube which is threaded into the top end plate. This tube goes right up to the engine manifold where the +12 volts is connected to it. A short length of rubber hose insulates this tube from the manifold.

Materials:

·   Don't use anything except 316 stainless (or aluminium where specified)

·   Use Sikaflex (white marine grade) on external joints to seal the unit.

·   Do not use cut-off wheels etc. to cut tubes - hand cut everything using a new hacksaw blade so that it is not contaminated with other material.

·   Negative power connection must be at the bottom and positive at the tube into the engine.

·   Don't use copper, Perspex, silastic or rubber. (apart from tube insulators as specified)

We are not sure if the aluminium rods are acceptable (maybe they need to be 316 also) but assume that they are OK as they are not magnetic and are outside of the field of the unit.

Do not mount the unit or pass the aluminium delivery tube near any high current electrical wiring. e.g. starter motor, alternator. Also after the unit has been two thirds filled with "charged water", do not short the positive and negative terminals as this will discharge the water and you will have to wash out the unit and start again. If the water is not "charged" correctly, the unit may discharge at 2 AM. This can be overcome by keeping a 1.5 volt battery connected to it overnight.

 

*************************************

 

 Next Update

Update Index

Main Page

Photo page

Plans and Graphics page

The experimenter's Guide to the Joe Cell